Guthrie Genealogy

GENETIC GENEALOGY of GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 2A

Joseph Guthrie & Julia J McCarthy

GFG2A - BRANCH J - CLUSTER 4

Joseph Guthrie

Son of Unknown Guthrie

Birth: 2 May 1825

Birth Location: Ireland

Marriage: 19 April 1868 at St Xavier Church in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Occupation: Farmer & Postmaster

Military Service: Civil War - Private 10th Ohio Infantry

Death: 26 August 1909

Death Location: Meigs County, Tennessee, USA

Burial Location: Ragland-Baldwin Cemetery (aka Ten Mile Cemetery)

Julia J McCarthy

Daughter of James McCarthy & Mary (nee Unknown)

Birth: September 1841

Birth Location: County Cork, Ireland

Sons: James McCarthy, Timothy Basselman, John Francis 

Daughters: None

Death: 13 March 1924

Death Location: Sweetwater, Monroe, Tennessee, USA

Burial Location:  West View Cemetery in Sweetwater, Monroe, Tennessee, USA      

HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS:

1825: BIRTH of JOSEPH GUTHRIE

Joseph's DOB is listed on his tombstone: 2 May 1825. Census records list his birthplace as Ireland and reveal his father's birthplace as Scotland, and his mother's as Ireland. 

1841: BIRTH of JULIA J McCARTHY

Julia's approximate DOB, September of 1841, and her parents' identities, are recorded on her Death Certificate as reported by her son T.B. Guthrie. Descendants indicate that her birth location was County Cork, Ireland. It is likely that her family were Jesuits since her marriage took place at St Xavier Church, a parish run by the Society of Jesus.

The McCarthy surname originated in Ireland. 60% of people with that surname in Ireland still live in County Cork where the family was very powerful in the middle ages. [SOURCE

1845: THE IRISH POTATO FAMINE 

[Source: The Great Hunger] "In August, the Irish potato crop was attacked by a previously unknown fungus, Phytophthora infestans. It was first noticed in counties Dublin and Fermanagh.  The disease blackened the potato leaves and caused the tubers in the ground to putrefy. In this year, approximately 40 per cent of the crop was infected."  

1846: THE IRISH POTATO FAMINE

[Source: The Great Hunger] "The blight returned to Ireland, but it appeared earlier in the harvest season and was far more destructive than in the previous year. As Ireland’s potato crop was consumed by blight, the nation’s peasants, who relied on the potato as their primary food source, starved. The famine took as many as one million lives from hunger and disease and caused mass emigration."

1847: THE IRISH POTATO FAMINE - BLACK '47 

[Source: The Summer of Black '47] By 1847, the government had finally started putting some measures into place. Too little, too late. "In the summer of 1847, the number of deaths from starvation decreased, but the number of deaths from disease increased. It was common for doctors and the relief workers themselves to die from disease. This disease was to spread and, in the end, disease killed far more people during the Famine than direct starvation did." 

[See Also: Timeline of the Irish Famine

1847: EMIGRATION of JOSEPH GUTHRIE from IRELAND to AMERICA

The 1900 census indicates that Joseph Guthrie immigrated to the U.S.A in 1847, which is a key year during the Irish Potato Famine. 

"The need for an immigration depot (at Ellis Island) was first realized in 1847 when a severe potato famine in Ireland sent thousands of starving immigrants streaming into New England and New York. As immigration to the United States increased, state and federal governments sought a way to regulate the flow. Along with their bundled possessions newcomers to America brought skilled hands and able bodies. Some saw this as a boon to the work force and economy of the nation. Others saw immigrants as merely hungry mouths and charity cases which would drain the U. S. Treasury." [SOURCE: Ellis Island

"Many of these people came to Ohio as a direct result of the potato famine in Ireland during the 1840s. Unable to pay mortgages for their land due to the poor potato crop, many of these people hoped to come to the United States to start their lives again. Many arrived with nothing more than a few pieces of clothing. While most of the Irish immigrants hoped to become farmers, without any money, they took whatever jobs they could receive." [SOURCE: Irish Ohioans]  

1850: RESIDENCE UNKNOWN

Although by 1850 Joseph Guthrie had been living in America for almost 3 years his state of residence is unknown. It seems quite likely that during this period he remained migrant searching for whatever work he might find. 

1851: EMIGRATION of the McCARTHY FAMILY from IRELAND to AMERICA

The 1920 census lists Julia's immigration year as 1851. James & Mary McCarthy, her parents, were both born in Ireland. Julia would have been 9-10 at the time she came to America, so it seems likely that she made the journey with her parents.

The name James McCarthy is not exactly uncommon. Knowing the year of passage helps narrow the search criteria, but still leaves numerous possible entries when searching Immigration Records at Ancestry.com.

1860: RESIDENCE UNKNOWN

The only man by the name Joseph Guthrie (of any spelling variant) born 1820-1830 in Ireland is found in Wilmington Ward 4, New Castle, Delaware. He is living with the William & Margaret Forrest family and working as a laborer. 

BEFORE/DURING 1861: EMIGRATION to CINCINNATI, HAMILTON, OHIO, USA

Sometime between Joseph Guthrie's 1847 immigration and the start of the Civil War, he emigrated to Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio. 

1861: MILITARY ENLISTMENT (CIVIL WAR)

Enumerated for the 11th Federal Census (1890) in a Special Schedule of Surviving Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines, and Widows, Etc., Joseph Guthrie is listed on Page 1, Supervisor District 2, Enumeration District 93, of the 7th Civil District, Meigs County, Tennessee, in June 1890.

Line#9: From Schedule #1- Home No. 69, Family No. 74; Guthrie, Joseph, Rank: Private; Company: C; Name of Regiment: 10 Ohio Inf; Date of Enlistment: 17 June 1861; Date of Discharge: 17 June 1864; Length of Service: 3 Yrs, 0 Mos., 0 Days, Post Office Address: Ten Mile Stand, Tenn; Disability Incurred: Shot in Right Hip; Remarks: Suffering from Rheumatism and Varicose Veins.

The site 'Cincinnati Civil War Round Table' provides insight into the 10th Ohio Infantry, including some details on Company C:

"Information having been received that Floyd was intrenching himself at Carnifex Ferry, the column moved to attack him, and, after four days' marching, reached the Gauley River. Company C deployed as skirmishers, and first struck the enemy, and drove them back on their camp, which was carried by the bayonet, and everything in it captured, including a fine drove of cattle." 

1862: CINCINNATI DURING the CIVIL WAR 

1864: MILITARY DISCHARGE (CIVIL WAR)

Joseph Guthrie was discharged from the US Army on 17 June 1864 after completing 3 years of volunteer service. The veteran's schedule created for the 1890 census indicates that Joseph had been shot in the right hip during the war. Presumably, he was able to continue until the end of his enlistment period, but retained an invalid status, which is reflected on Veterans Payment Cards

1864-1866: MOVED to MEIGS COUNTY, TENNESSEE, USA

The original Meigs County Deed Books do not survive before 1879, a courthouse fire on the night of 2 April 1902 being the likely cause. So it may be necessary to look at other sources to determine exactly when and where Joseph Guthrie first settled within Meigs County, Tennessee. By 1866, he was living in Ten Mile Stand.

1866: APPOINTED POSTMASTER of TEN MILE STAND

Joseph Guthrie was appointed as a U.S. Postmaster at Ten Mile Stand in Meigs County, Tennessee on 11 June 1866. This service may have continued through 1878. This site on the History of Meigs County, Tennessee includes some great photos. One is of the Ten Mile Stand Post Office, although it does not indicate when it was built. This site on the US Congress House Documents describes a bidding process for the assignment of Postal Carriers. In this example, B.H. McCallon was accepted for the 15-mile Sweetwater to Ten Mile Stand route dated 8 March 1876 for $130 per annum. Bidders had offered to work for $130-$375 rates of pay. Bids for the same job for the Sweetwater to Hiawasee College route, which was only 11 miles, ranged from $313-$639, so it appears that the job might pay a very different salary depending upon the exact location and the level of bidding.

1868: MARRIAGE of JOSEPH GUTHRIE & JULIA J McCARTHY

Although Joseph Guthrie had been living in Meigs County, TN for at least 2 years, his marriage to Julia McCarthy took place back in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH. They married at St Xavier Church on 19 April 1868. He was 42 years old and Julia was 26. 

"St Francis Xavier has existed as its own parish since 1845 when the cathedral was mobed. The parish has been under the direction of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) since 1840. The present brick edifice with stone facing and ornate clock tower was built in 1860."

 

1869: BIRTH of SON, JAMES McCARTHY GUTHRIE

The first of three sons, James McCarthy Guthrie was born on 13 March 1869 in Tennessee. He was enumerated with his parents in District 7 of Meigs County, TN during the 1870 and 1880 censuses. James' marriage to Margaret 'Maggie' Johnson took place in that county on 5 February 1892. The majority of their 5 children died young. Their youngest son, Farris Lacey Guthrie, was a posthumous child born about 3 months after his father's death on 18 July 1899. James is buried in the Ragland-Baldwin Cemetery (aka Ten Mile Cemetery). There are no descendants from this line in the DNA project. 

1870: CENSUS of DISTRICT 7, MEIGS, TENNESSEE, USA

GUTHRIE HOUSEHOLD: Jo Guthrie 43 MW ret dry goods merchant 1500 1400 Ireland; Julia Guthrie 29 FW housekeeping Ireland; James Guthrie 1 MW TN; Jane Ellis 14 FW TN; Charlotte Socke17 FW TN. 

1870: BIRTH of SON, TIMOTHY BASSELMAN GUTHRIE

Son Timothy Basselman Guthrie was named for a family friend. He was born on 17 July 1870 in Meigs County, Tennessee and was enumerated with his parents in the 1880 census. By 1900, he had moved to Monroe County, Tennessee where he was listed as one of 4 boarders living in the household of Fred Smith. He was working as a traveling salesman at the time. Sarah 'Sallie' Lavenia Barnett became his wife on 9 September 1903. The marriage took place in Bradley, TN. They made their home in Sweetwater, Monroe, TN where they were enumerated in 1910, 1920, 1930 and 1940. Tim and Sallie had 2 daughters and 1 son. Tim was a retail merchant specializing in hardware. Timothy B Guthrie is the direct ancestor of DNA project participant Timothy Barrett Guthrie III

1873: BIRTH of SON, JOHN FRANCIS GUTHRIE 

Joseph & Julia's youngest son, John Francis Guthrie, was born on 3 January 1873 in Meigs County, Tennessee. He was enumerated with the family in the District 7 census for 1880. I have yet to locate him in the 1900 census. On 25 August 1908 John married Jalia Alberta 'Berta' Baldwin. They were parents to 2 daughters and 2 sons. Berta died on 13 May 1950 in Meigs County, TN. She is buried at the Ragland-Baldwin (aka Ten Mile) Cemetery. John died on 1 Feb 1953 having been back in Ten Mile for a period of 6 months. He is buried in Buttrams Cemetery in Rhea County, TN. This line of the family is not currently represented in the DNA project.

1876 Tennessee State Gazetteer and Business Directory

1880: CENSUS of DISTRICT 7, MEIGS, TENNESSEE, USA

GUTHRIE HOUSEHOLD: Joseph Guthrie 54 Farmer IRE/SCT/IRE; Julia 38 wife keeping house dyspepsia IREx3; James 10 son @ school TN; Timothy B 9 son @ school TN; John F 7 son TN. 

1883: LIST of PENSIONERS

Joseph Guthrie is on the list of pensioners for Meigs County, TN on the roll on 1 Jan 1883. See Military Documents below. [SOURCE]

Name: Guthrie, Joseph; Post Office Address: Ten Mile Stand; Cause for which pensioned: g.s.w.r. hip; Monthly Rate: $6.00; Date of Original Allowance: Feb 1882 

1889: RE-APPOINTED POSTMASTER of TEN MILE STAND

Joseph Guthrie was again appointed as the Postmaster for Ten Mile Stand on 17 September 1889. Two others had held that post in the interim years since his last tenure, but Joseph maintained the role for only a few months through the winter of '89-'90. Bernhard Gilbert was appointed as postmaster on 12 March 1890.

1890: RESIDENCE in ED 93, MEIGS, TENNESSEE, USA

1891: REGISTERED MALE VOTER, MEIGS, TENNESSEE, USA

1899: DEATH of SON, JAMES McCARTHY GUTHRIE

James died at only 30 years of age on 18 July 1899. He is buried in the Ragland-Baldwin (aka Ten Mile) Cemetery. 

1900: CENSUS of CIVIL DISTRICT 7, MEIGS, TENNESSEE, USA

GUTHRIE HOUSEHOLD: Joseph Guthrie head, may 1825, 78, mx33, IRE/SCT/IRE, imm1847x53yrs, farmer; Julia Guthrie wife Sept 1846, 53, mx33 3ch 2liv, IREx3; Alice Lemons, servant, Sep 1881, 18, TNx3; Robert Taylor boarder TNx3. 

1909: DEATH of JOSEPH GUTHRIE

Joseph Guthrie passed away on 26 August 1909 and is buried at the Ragland-Baldwin (aka Ten Mile) Cemetery. 

1910: CENSUS of CIVIL DISTRICT 4, MEIGS, TENNESSEE, USA

GUTHRIE HOUSEHOLD: Julia Guthrie 68 widowed 3ch 2iv IREx3; John Guthrie son 37 mx1 1yr home farm; Bertie Guthrie daughter-in-law 28 mx1 1yr 0ch TNx3. 

1920: CENSUS of CIVIL DISTRICT 4, MEIGS, TENNESSEE, USA

GUTHRIE HOUSEHOLD @ Ten Mile, Sweetwater Road: John Guthrie 47 head TN farmer; Bertie 39 wife TN; Julia 11 dau TN; Jane 9 dau TN; Gid 7 son TN; Thom 5 son TN; Julia Guthrie 78 mother widowed immigrated 1851 Irelandx3. 

1924: DEATH of WIFE, JULIA J McCARTHY GUTHRIE 

Julia died on 13 March 1924 in Sweetwater, Monroe, Tennessee. See her Death Certificate below. She is buried at the West View Cemtery. 

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DEATH CERTIFICATE of JULIA J. McCARTHY GUTHRIE