Guthrie Genealogy

GENETIC GENEALOGY of GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 2A

John Guthrie & Jane Reed & Mary Simpson

GFG2A - BRANCH G - CLUSTER 2

John Guthrie

Son of Unknown Guthrie of Londonderry, N. Ireland

Birth: 1725

Location: Londonderry, Ireland

Married 1st: Jane c1745 in Londonderry, Ireland

Married 2nd: Mary 1780s in Westmoreland, PA

Death: March 1797

Location: Salem, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania

Burial: Poke Run Cemetery

Jane Reed

Daughter of Unknown Reed

Birth: 1726

Location: Londonderry, Ireland

Sons: John, James, William

Daughters: Elizabeth, Sarah, Jane, Nancy

Death: circa 1780

Location: Salem, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania

Burial: Poke Run Cemetery (Probably)        

Mary Simpson

Daughter of Unknown Simpson

Birth: circa 1740

Location: Pennsylvania (possibly Franklin County)

Married 1st: Richard Wallace

Wallace Sons: Peter, James, William

Wallace Daughters: Nancy, Rachel

Guthrie Children: None 

Death: after 1808

Location: Pennsylvania (Probably)

Burial: Unknown, Probably in Pennsylvania

HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS:

c1725: BIRTH of JOHN GUTHRIE

The year of John Guthrie's birth is an estimate. He was likely born in the 1720s in or near the city of Londonderry, Ireland. His parents remain unidentified, but he is possibly a brother to the Robert Guthrie who married Bridget Dougherty, also unproven.

c1726: BIRTH of JANE REED

The year of birth is an estimate likely based upon her husband's estimated DOB in the 1720s. Jane's name appears to be a matter of some controversy. There are many online trees which list her as "Mary Jane" rather than simply "Jane". American Guthrie author, LRG, is likely the source of this confusion. Documents from the 1790s which name John Guthrie's wife all refer to her as "Mary". Rather than conclude that Jane had died and that John subsequently remarried, LRG decided to eliminate the issue by inventing the merged name of "Mary Jane", which he admitted was done to satisfy conflicting reports. See LRG p715, ref 415.

The author of 'A Captive's Tale', the story of John & Jane's daughter, Elizabeth Guthrie Brownlee Guthrie, indicates that unpublished Guthrie family papers list her name as "Jane Reed" and indicate that she was born in the city of Londonderry, Ireland.

'The Beatty Book' by Lu Ann Kennedy Cherry indicates that John's first wife died in the early 1780s, and that he remarried with Mary Simpson Wallace. It is Mary's name that shows up in subsequent documents, including a deed that proves he married the widow of Richard Wallace. (Westmoreland Deeds, Liber D, Folio 210). This data seems to confirm that John Guthrie had two wives, the first of whom was named Jane Reed.

c1740: BIRTH of MARY SIMPSON

Unknown parents. Some online trees list her DOB as 1744. Mary's family might have come from Antrim, Franklin County, Pennsylvania where she reportedly married Richard Wallace. They had several children including the following named in an Orphan's Court Docket (Vol 3A, p208): Peter, James, Agnes, Rachel, and William. Her husband Richard Wallace was the Quartermaster during the Lochry Expedition in 1781. According to this source on Lochry's Disaster, Wallace was only one of five men to survive the expedition. At Richard Wallace's death in 1785 he owned a grist mill, saw mill, two adjacent plantations, and a third on Sewickley. Mary remarried to John Guthrie.

c1745: MARRIAGE of JOHN GUTHRIE & JANE REED

This year appears to be an estimate of their marriage date as listed in the Family Search 'Pedigree Resource File', which is user-submitted information. The date is 7 years before the birth of the eldest known child, and so is probably and early estimate. 

1752: BIRTH of SON - JOHN "JACK" GUTHRIE

Nicknamed 'Jack' in order to distinguish himself from his father. Born in Londonderry, Ireland about 1752. He immigrated to America with his parents & siblings. He married Mary Irwin Lochry, the widow of Col. Archibald Lochry. They had 3 sons and 2 daughters. Jack & Mary are the ancestors of DNA Project participant, Ron Guthrie. Jack was "an astute woodsman, skilled in Indian warfare, a patriot in the Revolution and a frontier ranger." (LRG,p.409) Mary died in 1791. Jack went to Kentucky in 1805 with the intention of locating land to settle his family there. During the trip, he became sick and died. Probable burial location is in Kentucky. His children remained in Pennsylvania.

1755: BIRTH of DAUGHTER - ELIZABETH GUTHRIE

Elizabeth's life story is fascinating and well-documented. Born in 1755 in Londonderry, Ireland, she immigrated to America with her parents & siblings. According to the deposition of her sister Jane Beatty, Elizabeth was only 14 years old when she married Joseph Brownlee. One of Elizabeth's sons stated his uncertainty about the marriage date, but thought it might be closer to 1776. There are several online sources which tell about the Indian attack at Hanna's Town which resulted in the death of Joseph Brownlee and son John. Both Elizabeth and her infant daughter Jane Brownlee were captured by the Indians and taken north to Canada. They survived the ordeal and were sold to the British. Eventually, Elizabeth was released and made it back to Westmoreland, Pennsylvania. One published resource is 'A Captive's Tale', by Anna L. Warren, which includes a transcription of Elizabeth's petition to receive her husband's pension. The widowed Elizabeth married her cousin, William Guthrie (Branch B). William was a military man, and a poor farmer. The couple had 3 sons and 6 daughters. William Guthrie died in 1828 after a fall off a wagon from a bridge. Elizabeth died on 11 Feb 1842 in Redbank, Armstrong, Pennsylvania.

1763: BIRTH of DAUGHTER - SARAH "SALLY" GUTHRIE

Sally Guthrie was born on 12 August 1763 in Londonderry, Ireland. She immigrated to America with her parents & siblings. Sally married William Beatty on 8 July 1783 in Washington, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania, the first of the Guthrie-Beatty marriages. (The Beatty family is described in more detail in the "Allied Families" section of Laurence R. Guthrie's book, pp.483-486.) They settled on a tract in Armstrong County, Pennsylvania about 10 miles north of Freeport. William "built a stone house on it which is still a landmark in that locality." A granddaughter of William & Sally informed LRG that, "My grandfather, at the request of grandmother, went to the North of Ireland to see her Guthrie grandparents. They were still living in or near Londonderry and were glad to see him. I have forgotten their names." Although there are no names in the report, we can conclude that John Guthrie's parents were alive and still living in or near Londonderry after 1783. William Beatty died 17 Mar 1827, so the trip to Ireland would have taken place before that date. Sarah Guthrie Beatty died 11 Aug 1849. Both William & Sally are buried in the old Salt Lick Cemetery in Armstrong, PA. They had 11 children. 

1765: BIRTH of DAUGHTER - JANE GUTHRIE

Jane Guthrie was born in Londonderry, Ireland in or about 1765. She immigrated along with the family to America, and on 31 Dec 1789 married John Beatty, the brother to her sister's husband William Beatty. They were the parents of 8 children, including youngest daughter Sarah Beatty who married her cousin James Guthrie, of Apollo, Armstrong, PA, the son of William & Agnes (Dixon) Guthrie. Jane Guthrie Beatty died in 1853 in Butler, Butler County, Pennsylvania.

1771: BIRTH of SON: JAMES GUTHRIE

James was born about 1770, a short time before the family immigrated to America from Londonderry, Ireland. About 1796 he settled in Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, then part of Westmoreland, and bought a 300 acre property from the heirs of William Penn. He served in the War of 1812, and later received a life pension. Politically, he was a whig. He also served as an influential and ruling member of the old Saltsburg Presbyterian Church and as a County Commissioner He married Margaret Dixon on 15 Jan 1796. They were the parents of 7 sons and 3 daughters. James died on 16 Dec 1848, and Margaret in April of 1849. They are buried in the Beulah Church Cemetery in Apollo, Armstrong, PA.

1771: IMMIGRATION from IRELAND to PENNYSLVANIA 

In November of 1768 the Iroquois Confederacy ceded lands to the British which permitted white settlements west of the Alleghenies. The region was formally opened up in April of 1769. When John & Jane settled with their children their lands were in the area that would become Westmoreland County, but were at the time "beyond the frontiers". Westmoreland County (1773) was the first county established in the Colony of Pennsylvania west of the Allegheny Mountains. As such, it was all or parts of ten Southwestern Pennsylvania counties. This includes Washington County in 1781. Also Armstrong county in 1800, an area where several of John & Jane's children settled. {Source

"Like all the earliest settlers in Westmoreland, John Guthrie "squatted" on the lands he held and it was several years before he obtained the title to them from the Propretaries. {LRG}

c1771-1775: BIRTH of DAUGHTER - NANCY GUTHRIE

Nancy was the first of John & Jane's children born in America. Birth dates from online trees vary between 1771 and 1775 without source data. Nancy married James C. Porterfield in Kittainning, Armstrong, PA on 20 Feb 1794. Sons include Robert Guthrie Porterfield.  

1777: BIRTH of SON - WILLIAM GUTHRIE

Born in July of 1777 in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. He bought the interests of the other heirs in his fathers homestead and lived on it all his life. He married twice. First to Agnes Dixon in 1803 with whom he had 3 sons. DNA Project member Walter James Guthrie III is a descendant. Agnes died in 1806. William remarried to Mary Hill in 1808. They were the parents of 7 daughters.

1777: JUSTICE of the PEACE for Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania

This county was home to more than one branch of MD/PA Guthries. Branch B and Branch D also have some ties there. And it seems that more than one of them held the role of Justice of the Peace. John Guthrie, Esq. was from Salem Twp. James Guthrie, Esq. was from Greensburg Twp.

1780s: DEATH of WIFE - JANE REED GUTHRIE

There is no definite known date for Jane's death. She died sometime after her son William's birth in 1777 and before John signed a deed naming Mary Guthrie, widow of Richard Wallace, as his wife in January of 1790. 

1784: ORGANIZATION of POKE RUN CHURCH 

"John was a Covenanter of the strictest kind and reared his family in faith. He brought with him to America a copy of Rev William Guthrie's treatise, 'The Christian's Great Interest' (first published in 1668), and several of his other writings and other religious books." {LRG}

John Guthrie was one of the early members of the Poke Run Presbyterian Church. He contributed or paid for supplies for services held at a local home until such a time as members of the church built a log edifice 30x70 feet in size. Both John Guthry Sr and John Guthry Jr signed a paper in March 1790 stating that they were members of the church and promised to help pay for the services of Rev. Samuel Porter in both money and produce. 

1785: DEATH of RICHARD WALLACE

Mary's husband Richard Wallace had been the Quartermaster during the Lochry Expedition in 1781. Wallace was only one of five men to survive the expedition. At Richard Wallace's death in 1785 he owned a grist mill, saw mill, two adjacent plantations, and a third on Sewickley. Mary remarried to John Guthrie. 

After 1785: MARRIAGE of JOHN GUTHRIE & MARY SIMPSON WALLACE 

Sometime after 1785, but before January 1790, John Guthrie married Richard Wallace's widow, Mary. 

1787: PROPERTY PATENT - SALEM, WESTMORELAND, PENNSYLVANIA

Initially surveyed on 13 April 1786, a patent was issued to John Guthrie on 21 Mar 1787 for a tract named "Guthrie's Fancy" containing 382 acres, 20 perches. Survey Book A50-118;I-240B. Patent Book: P10-72. Tract #5. Map Grid 54, 64. 

1788: PROPERTY SALE - SALEM, WESTMORELAND, PENNSYLVANIA (NEIGHBOR)

On 3 April 1788, John Guthrie sold to Michael Ringer, a tract of 140 perches, adj John Guthrie senior for 150 pounds gold or silver. 

1788: WILL of WALTER ANTHONY (NEIGHBOR)

John Guthrie was listed as owning property next to Walter Anthony. Will written 13 July 1788. 

1790: CENSUS for SALEM, WESTMORELAND, PENNSYLVANIA

JOHN GUTHRIE HOUSEHOLD: 2FWM <16, 2FWM >16. 2 FWF. 

1790: DEED in LIEU of WILL for RICHARD WALLACE

"I John Guthrie, of Westmoreland County, for natural affection and other good causes and considerations, have granted unto my wife, Mary Guthrie, one feather bed, furniture, one cherry tree chest, etc., with all benefits arising from the estate of Richard Wallace, to which I am entitled, to be disposed of at her pleasure after my decease." Signed the 12th day of January, 1790. John Guthrie. (Westmoreland Co., Pa., Deeds, Liber D, folio 210) 

1791: PROPERTY SALE - SALEM, WESTMORELAND, PENNSYLVANIA

John Guthrie, senior, and Mary, his wife, both of Salem...Whereas the Commonwealth granted 1 March 1787 a tract of land called 'Guthrie's Fancy' unto the said John, said John now sells to Michael Ringer containing 142 acres, 112 perches, being part of above. 

1795: PROPERTY SALE - SALEM, WESTMORELAND, PENNSYLVANIA

"John Guthrie, of Westmoreland County, for 20 bushels of wheat, 100 bushels of rye, 6 bushels of corn, 6 bushels of buckwheat, 10 bushels of oats, 200 pounds of pork, 200 pounds of beef, 2 cows foddered, 6 sheep kept, 2 horses kept and when not at my command to work in moderation, etc. from James and William Guthrie, in consideration whereof the said John Guthrie sells to them a certain tract of land containing 242 acres, my dwelling house excepted and they are not to sell the land until after my death and if it please God to call me off before my wife, she is to enjoy two thirds of the income, except the horses of which she is to have one half if unmarried. But if she marries she is to go with her husband and enjoy no more of said income. Said land adjoins Michael Ringle, Joseph Thorn, Dewall Maclin, Phillip Walter. Dated Oct 9, 1795. 

(Signed)
John Guthrie
M.G. (her mark)
James Guthrie
William Guthrie 
In the presence of William Hill. Recorded  March 10, 1797. (Westmoreland County PA Deeds, Vol 2, Part 2, p562) 

1797: DEATH of JOHN GUTHRIE

John Guthrie died in 1797. He was buried at Poke Run Presbyterian Church Cemetery.

"James Guthrie and William Guthrie of Salem Township, Westmoreland County, Pa in consideration of having received a release from Mary Guthrie, Relict of John Guthrie Esq, deceased, late of Salem Township, giving up all claim to the real estate of the said John Guthrie, do bind ourselves to permit her to enjoy all the personal estate of John Guthrie, aforesaid, after the funeral expenses are discharged, and to permit her to have whole use and possession of the house in which she now lives, one third of the "Shugar Camp" while she remains unmarried and to furnishing to said Mary Guthrie while she remains unmarried--20 bushels of wheat, 7 bushels of rye, 4 bushels of Indian corn, 4 bushels of buckwheat, 7 bushels of oats, 133 pounds of beef, 133 pounds of pork, 1/2 acre of turnip, potatoes, etc. 10th day of April, 1797.  

Jas. Guthrie
William Guthrie
Signed in the presence of Samuel Porter. Recorded Nov 1797. (Westmoreland Co., Pa Deeds, Vol 3, p168)

As to the estate--

"John Guthrie of Washington Township, William Guthrie of Salem Township (this was William Guthrie, the husband of Elizabeth (Guthrie) Brownlee), William Beatty, and James Beatty, both of Washington Township, and James Porterfield, of Salem Township, in consideration of the sum of five shillings to each of us in hand paid by James Guthrie and William Guthrie, both of Salem Township, do hereby give up and quit-claim our interest in the estate of John Guthrie Esq, deceased, late of Salem Township, to the said James Guthrie and William Guthrie. 10th April 1797.

(Signed)
John Guthrie
William Guthrie
William Beatty
John Beatty
James Porterfield.
In the presence of Samuel Porter, James Hill. Recorded 15th day of April, 1811. (Westmoreland Co Pa Deeds Vol 9, p262) 

1808: DEATH of MARY SIMPSON WALLACE GUTHRIE 

John Guthrie's widow, Mary, died sometime after 1808.