Guthrie Genealogy

GENETIC GENEALOGY of GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 2A

George Guthrie & Margaret Campbell

GFG2A - BRANCH E - CLUSTER 5

George Guthrie

Son of Robert Guthrie & Bridget Dougherty

Birth: c1746-1751

Location: Pennsylvania

Marriage: c1770

Death: October to November 1813

Location: Hollidaysburg, Blair, Pennsylvania

Burial: Holliday Burial Ground

Margaret Campbell

Daughter of William Campbell & Jeanet Coulter

Birth: 1753

Location: Peters, Franklin, Pennsylvania

Sons: William Campbell, James

Daughters: Sara, Jane, (Unknown Daughter)

Death: 1805

Location: Hollidaysburg, Blair, Pennsylvania, USA

Burial: Holliday Burial Ground (Presumed, Unmarked Grave)

HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS:

c1746-1751: BIRTH of GEORGE GUTHRIE

This man, Lt. George Guthrie, should not be confused with another man of similar name and DOB. He is not George Nelson Guthrie, who was also born about 1750. There is also a second man of the same name and rank, Lt. George Guthrie, who was with a different regiment of the dragoons during the Revolutionary War. So use caution when attaching relations and documents to your trees.

Much of what we know about George Guthrie comes through the literary efforts of his descendant, Rev. Laurence Rawlin Guthrie (LRG), who penned 'American Guthrie and Allied Families', but even he used words of caution in connecting the George Guthrie of his ancestral line with parents. "George is said to have been a son of Robert Guthrie and Bridget Dougherty." The recent results of LRG's grandson, participant 214109, prove a genetic match to others who are linked to R&B's line by a paper trail. Enough evidence, I believe, to confirm the relationship.

George was born in Pennsylvania, either in the Lancaster County area or in Cumberland County. His parents moved from one to the other sometime during the estimated range of his birth between 1746-1751. 

1753: BIRTH of MARGARET CAMPBELL

Margaret was born about 1753. "She was a daughter of Sergeant William Campbell, of Peters Township, Cumberland (afterwards Franklin) County, Pa, whose wife was Jeanet Coulter." LRG discussed the 'Allied Family' of the Campbells of Peters Township beginning on p499 of his book. 

c1770: MARRIAGE of GEORGE GUTHRIE & MARGARET CAMPBELL

The marriage of George & Margaret is estimated to have occurred about 1770. The records of Upper West Conococheague Presbyterian Church indicate that Margaret Campbell was unmarried in the year 1769. {LRG, p.710, ref357}

The information provided by LRG lists 2 known sons, with 2 other possible sons unnamed, and 3 daughters born to this marriage. Because of the unknown DOB for most of these children, I will list them here: James Guthrie (died 1803), William Campbell Guthrie (c1780-1834), a daughter who married Robert Provines, Sarah Guthrie 1775-1813, and Jane Guthrie c1790-1868. 

1770s: BIRTH of SON, JAMES GUTHRIE

James is listed first in LRG's book. He is presumably one of the 4 males over 16 (one of them being his father, George, the other two the unknown brothers) in the 1790 census. He might have been the eldest son or somewhere in the middle. Although we know nothing of James Guthrie's life, we do know a little about his death, which took place in 1803. 

1775: BIRTH of DAUGHTER, SARA GUTHRIE 

Sara was likely born in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania about 1775. She was "a legatee in and witness to the will of her uncle, Charles Campbell, of Westmoreland County, Pa. She married Elijah Adams. 4 children: Margaret, Jackson, Charles and Elizabeth (twins). 

1776-1783: REVOLUTIONARY WAR SOLDIER

The Revolutionary War period and the resulting sparsity of documentation are the likely causes of confusion about the identity and service of George Guthrie. There are three men of the name George Guthrie who are frequently confused in online trees. An explanation of the American Revolutionary War Records of Lt George Guthrie of PA and Lt. George Guthrie of VA can be found online at IV Continental Light Dragoons - George Guthrie Paper

George Guthrie of Huntingdon County - Lieutenant of the 4th Continental Dragoons

George Guthrie of Virginia - 1st Continental Light Dragoons (private soldier) and in 'Light Horse' Henry Lee's Virignia Legion (sergeant, later lieutenant)

George Nelson Guthrie, born in Ireland, died in Hebron County, NY, "decided to move his family with such belongings as they could conveniently take away from the combat zone" during the Revolutionary War. This Guthrie Family History by Henry F Guthrie indicates that two of George Nelson Guthrie's brothers were soldiers against the British, but it seems to imply that George Nelson Guthrie was not. 

Author LRG's biographical sketch of his ancestor may also have mixed a few accounts of the two lieutenant Georges simply due to lack of clear-cut information. 

During the course of his book research, he wrote the War Department in search of detailed documentation on his ancestor George Guthrie's participation in the Revolutionary War and any family history the documents might contain. {Fold3}

 

 

The 4th Continental Light Dragoons also known as Moylan's Horse was raised on January 5, 1777 at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania for service with the Continental Army under Colonel Stephen Moylan. The regiment entered the history books by taking the field in captured British scarlet coats as noted in a letter from General George Washington to Colonel Moylan dated May 12, 1777, in which Moylan was directed to have his uniforms dyed to avoid confusion with British dragoons. The regiment changed to green coats faced in red during the summer of 1778, with black leather helmets in the style associated with Banastre Tarleton.

The regiment saw action at the Battle of Brandywine and the Battle of Germantown in their scarlet uniforms, and the Battle of Guilford Court House and the Battle of Yorktown in their more familiar green coats. The regiment was furloughed June 11, 1783 at Philadelphia and disbanded on November 15, 1783. {Wikipedia}

Reenactment are performed by the 4th Legionary Coprs.  

One document from Papers from the War Department 1784-1800 was found regarding Lt George Guthrie of the 4th Dragoons, a pay receipt.

1780: BIRTH of SON, WILLIAM CAMPBELL GUTHRIE

The direct ancestor of DNA Project Participant #214109, William Campbell Guthrie, was born c1780 in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania in the home of his grandfather Campbell in Peters Township. He was likely the youngest of George & Margaret's sons. William was a soldier in the war of 1812 and married Mary Ann Lybarger in 1814. They were parents to 10 children: Samuel, Margaret, Jane, Eliza, George, John, James, William, Lucinda, and Sarah. William died at North Springfield, Erie, Pennsylvania on 5 July 1834 survived by his wife Mary Ann. 

c1784: EMIGRATED from CUMBERLAND COUNTY to BEDFORD (LATER HUNTINGDON) COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA

1788: HUNTINGDON COUNTY TAX RECORDS

George Guthrie was taxed for 1 horse, 1 house, 2 lots.

1789: PROPERTY SALE

"George Guthrie and wife Margaret deeded their lot No. 68 on the north side of Allegheny Street, Feb. 20, 1789, to Alexander Dean. The enumeration of the town in 1796 shows that Dean was a tavern and shop keeper." {LRG, p710, footnote 355}

1789: CHARTER MEMBER of the FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH of HUNTINGDON

{SOURCE: The Historical memorial of the centennial anniversary of the Presbytery of Huntingdon: held in Huntingdon, Pa., April 9, 1895 : 1795-1895 (Google eBook), by Presbyterian Church in the USA Presbytery of Huntingdon, Printed by JB Lippincott Co, 1896.} 

1790: CENSUS of HUNTINGDON COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA

The George Guthrie Household: 1M<16, 4M>16, 3F 

Analysis of the household numbers is difficult because we do not have a definite family structure with known dates of birth. This could be a nuclear family with father, mother, 2 daughter, and 4 son, but it could also include non-family members such as lodgers or servants. Assuming that we are dealing with only family members, the females present would be wife Margaret, daughter Sara and 1 other daughter. The males would include George, as one of the M>16, leaving 3M>16 and 1<16. The son < 16 would be William Campbell Guthrie, aged about 10. This means that son presumed son James would have been born <1774. Since Margaret Campbell was known to be single in 1769, this also means that James and his two >16 year old brothers would have been born in quick succession after George & Margaret's marriage. The 1800 census might shed further light on the ages of the sons and whether all individuals here were children versus other people in the household. 

There is one other Guthrie entry listed for Huntingdon County in 1790, that of a HUGH GUTRY, whose household consisted of 1M >16 and 3 Females. Unknown relationship to George Guthrie, if any, but speculation on Guthrie Connections can be found in this message board archive.  

1791: APPOINTED CONSTABLE of HUNTINGDON

COURT: Extracts from Court Quarter Sessions, 1789-1795, Huntingdon County, PA

At a Court of Special and Private Sessions of the Peace, held at Huntingdon 
for the County of Huntingdon on the Twenty fifth day of March in the year of 
our Lord one thousand Seven hundred & ninety one. Before ROBERT  
GALBRAITH,__ BENJAMIN ELLIOTT, JOHN WILLIAMS, & WILLIAM PHILLIPS, Esquire, 
Justice etc. etc. the following persons were severally appointed to the  

COURT: Extracts from Court Quarter Sessions, 1789-1795, Huntingdon County, PA

"At a Court of Special and Private Sessions of the Peace, held at Huntingdon for the County of Huntingdon on the Twenty fifth day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand Seven hundred & ninety one. Before ROBERT GALBRAITH, BENJAMIN ELLIOTT, JOHN WILLIAMS, & WILLIAM PHILLIPS, Esquire, Justice etc etc the following persons were severally appointed to the respective offices in the several Townships, viz."

Includes the appointment of George Guthrie as Constable for the Town of Huntingdon. 

COURT: Extracts from Court Quarter Sessions, 1789-1795, Huntingdon County, PA

At a Court of Special and Private Sessions of the Peace, held at Huntingdon 
for the County of Huntingdon on the Twenty fifth day of March in the year of 
our Lord one thousand Seven hundred & ninety one. Before ROBERT  
GALBRAITH,__ BENJAMIN ELLIOTT, JOHN WILLIAMS, & WILLIAM PHILLIPS, Esquire, 
Justice etc. etc. the following persons were severally appointed to the  
respective offices in the several Townships, viz. 

1796: ENUMERATION of HUNTINGDON

"George Guthrie was not listed in Huntingdon (in 1796). It seems that he sold all his property in Huntingdon in 1793 and removed to Hollidaysburg, in Frankstown Township."

1798: DIRECT TAX LISTS, 1798, HUNTINGDON & SOMERSET, PENNSYLVANIA

1800: COMMISSIONED as BRIGADE INSPECTOR

George Guthrie Brigade Inspector of the second Brigade in the said (8th) Division. Commissioned Fri., April 25, 1800. {FOLD3: PA State Archives, Military Abstracts}

1800: CENSUS of FRANKSTOWN, HUNTINGDON, PENNSYLVANIA

The George Guthrie Household: 1M 26-44, 1F 45+, 1M 16-25, 1M & 2F 10-15 

According to this census, Margaret is actually slightly older than George. We have her DOB listed as 3 years after George, and she was deceased by the 1810 census, so there is no further info for comparison. It could also be that George is listed in the wrong age category. Assuming that he is the oldest male in the household in the 26-44 range, that makes his DOB between 1756-1774.

Son James, assuming that was his relationship, is not enumerated in Huntingdon as a HOH. By his death, he was living in Frankstown, Huntingdon, PA. He would've been born before 1774 making him about 26 in this census year. Son William Campbell Guthrie woul've been about 20 in 1800. Daughter Jane is likely one of the two females aged 10-15, but there are 1M and 1F of that same age category who remain unidentified.

1800: PENNSYLVANIA SEPTENNIAL CENSUS, HUNTINGDON TOWNSHIP

133. Guthrie, George, Tailor. (This might actually be Jailor instead of Tailor considering that George was a constable and the word Jailor has been used in the newspapers.)

1800: THE PRESS of HUNTINGDON COUNTY

Published either in the Guardian of Liberty and Huntingdon Chronicle or the Courier on 14 Aug 1800, "George Guthrie, jailer, offers a reward of eight dollars for an escaped prisoner committed for forgery.

1803: DEATH of SON, JAMES GUTHRIE 

Letters of administration were granted to George Guthrie on the estate of James Guthrie late of Frankstown, decd, on 27 April 1803. (Huntingdon Co PA Will Book 1, p.290.) Note that there is no relationship listed between George Guthrie and the deceased James Guthrie.

 

1805: DEATH of WIFE, MARGARET CAMPBELL GUTHRIE 

Margaret's death is listed as 1805 in Hollidaysburg. She is believed to be buried in an unmarked grave next to her husband George Guthrie in Holliday Burial Ground in Gaysport, Blair, Pennsylvania. 

1810: CENSUS of ALLEGHENY, HUNTINGDON, PENNSYLVANIA

G Guthrie Household: 1M & 1F 45+, 1M & 1F 16-25, 2F <10. 

1813: PROPERTY RELEASE

On 30 March 1813, George Guthrie of Huntingdon County, PA, releases to Robert Provines his right, title, and claim of one third part of an undivided tract of land situated in Bollin's Valley, held in partnership with Paul Donaghoe and William Simpson of Huntingdon, said to contain 100 acres, more or less. {Huntingdon County, PA Deed Book No.1, p343.} 

1813: DEATH of DAUGHTER, SARA GUTHRIE ADAMS

Sara died about 1813. COD unknown. 

1813: DEATH of GEORGE GUTHRIE 

George is buried in the Holliday Burial Ground in Gaysport, Blair, Pennsylvania. (Blair County was formed from Bedford & Huntingdon in 1846) 

Letters of administration on the estate of George Guthrie were granted to son-in-law Robert Provines on 13 November 1813.  

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