Guthrie Genealogy

GENETIC GENEALOGY of GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 2A

BRANCH D:  Archibald Guthery & Rebecca Phillips

Archibald Guthery & Rebecca Phillips

GFG2A - BRANCH D - CLUSTER 4

Archibald Guthery

Son of Archibald Guthery & Unknown______

Born: Feb 1753

Location: Pennsylvania, presumably

Marriage: c1774

Occupation:

Military Service: Revolutionary War

Died: 5 August 1779

Location: Fort Pitt (Now Pittsburgh, Allengheny, Pennsylvania, USA)

Burial: Unknown, presumably in Pennsylvania

Rebecca Phillips

Daughter of Unknown Phillips

Born: 1755

Location: Scotland

Sons: Archibald

Daughters: Elizabeth, Jane

Died: 1851

Location: Whiteley, Greene, Pennsylvania, USA

Burial: Guthrie Homestead, Whiteley, Greene, Pennsylvania, USA         

The Highlights:

1753: BIRTH of ARCHIBALD GUTHERY

According to the biography of a grandson, Samuel Guthrie (1820-1903), this family line had Irish origins. 

Archibald Guthery was reportedly born in February of 1753. {Source?}. His birth location is given fairly consistently in online trees as Greene County, Pennsylvania. However, Greene was not even formed until 1796. Prior to that it was part of Washington County, Pennsylvania. Washington County was formed from Westmoreland County in 1781. Westmoreland was formed in 1773, and was the first county in PA west of the Allegheny Mountains. Back in 1753 everything to the west that was claimed by Pennsylvania was encompassed by Cumberland County. Pennsylvania looked like this:

 

1755: BIRTH of REBECCA PHILLIPS
There is no data in LRG's 'American Guthrie & Allied Families' to indicate when or where Rebecca Phillips was born. Online trees list her birth as 1755 in Glasgow, SCT. I have found no information on her parents at this time. The one clue I have found regarding her birth year is the 1840 census where she is the wife of Samuel Hobbs. In that census the female of the household, presumed to be Rebecca, is 80-89 years of age making her DOB = 1751-1760.

1774: MARRIAGE of ARCHIBALD GUTHERY & REBECCA PHILLIPS
LRG, p.376. "Archibald Guthery married in 1774, Rebecca Phillips.

Unknown if this is an actual DOM as there is no accompanying documentation, or if it is an estimate based upon the Dec 1774 birth of their eldest daughter Elizabeth. 

1774: RESIDENCE IN GREENE TOWNSHIP, PENNSYLVANIA, USA 
LRG, p. 376. "He took up land in Whiteley Township." 

This must've been about 25 years before the official creation of the town. This site on Greene County states: Whiteley and Dunkard Townships, were formed in December 1794 (division of Greene Township) and Whiteley was incorporated in 1798. The bounds beginning at the head of Smith’s Run on the state line, down said run to the mouth, across Dunkard Creek to the mouth of Glade Run, up the said run to the head, along the ridge dividing Meadow run from Watkins Run, straight to the mouth of Montgomery Run on the north side of Whiteley Creek, thence up the said run to the head till it strikes the present township line, the upper or western district, to be called Whiteley Township. 

The same site on Greene County states: Greene Township was settled in 1754 and incorporated 1781. Greene Township was originally part of Washington County. When Greene County was formed in 1796, it included Cumberland, Franklin, Greene, Morgan, Richhill, and a small portion of Finley. 

1774: DUNMORE'S WAR

"After John Connally, the agent of John Murray, Earl of dunmore, Royal Governor of Virginia, took possession of Fort Pitt, he named it Fort Dunmore early in 1774. He attempted retaliation for the Indian outrages and on 10 June the Governor called out the militia of southwest Virginia under the command of Gen. Andrew Lewis. In August the militia of Fredrick County under Maj Angus McDonald raided the Indian towns on the Muskingum River. Lord Dunmore came to the frontier and called on the neighboring militia to join in the expedition against the hostiles. Before his forces could join those of Gen. Lewis, the Indians attacked the latter on 10 October. The Indians were soundly defeated at the battle of Point Pleasant. The following abstracts are taken from the records housed in the Archives Division of the Virginia State Library and in the Draper Manuscripts in the Wisconsin State Historical Society."

The names of the soldiers on the pay rolls at Pittsburgh. 

p.145 Capt. John Wilson's roll: (includes) Archibald Guthrie; John Guthray 

p.145 Capt. Samuel Kincade's roll: (includes) John Godfrey, Archibald Guttery.

{SOURCE: Virginia's Colonial Soldiers By Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck} 

Uncertain whether these two pay rolls refer to two separate Archibald Guthries or if they represent two occasions where a single man named Archibald Guthrie was on the pay roll. 

1774: BIRTH of DAUGHTER, ELIZABETH GUTHERY
Elizabeth was born on 20 December 1774. She married Jacob Fordyce on 29 Nov 1798. They were the parents of 7 children, including her father's namesake Archibald Guthrie Fordyce.

1777: BIRTH of DAUGHTER, JANE GUTHERY
Listed by LRG (p.377) as one of the three children of Archibald & Rebecca Guthery. No birthdate is listed there, but online trees indicate her DOB was 1777. She married Andrew Dyer. Nothing further is known. 

1779: BIRTH of SON, ARCHIBALD GUTHERY
LRG, p.377. "Archibald Guthrie, Jr., like his father was a soldier. He was a defender of the frontiers of Western Pennsylvania and also served in the War of 1812. He married (1) in 1806, Elizabeth Lemley."...Archibald & Elizabeth were the parents of 10 children. After Elizabeth's death in 1829, Archibald remarried to a widow, Mrs. Martha Scott, and they had 2 daughters. "Archibald purchased his father's farm and lved on it his entire life." 

1779: REVOLUTIONARY WAR - PRIVATE - EIGHTH PENNSYLVANIA REGIMENT - FORT PITT
Archibald Guthery was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. (LRG, p.376) "He was wounded by an Indian at what is now East Liberty, Pittsburgh, PA, early in August, 1779. He managed to escape from the Indian and made his way back to Fort Pitt, a part of which is still standing at the Point, Pittsburgh, PA., where he died from the effect of his wound, Aug. 5, 1779."

LRG Footnote 392, p.712. In the Revolution:-- "Archibald Guthrie, Pitts. 32; --Militia payed at Fort Pitt." (a manuscript.) "Archibald Guttery, Pitts. 35. Paid at Fort Pitt. Militia." (a manuscript). (See Virginia State Library List of Revolutionary Soldiers of Virginia, compiled by H.J. Eckenrode, State Archivist); Virginia during the Revolution claimed that part of Pennsylvania in which Archibald lived.

"Continental Line; Non-commissioned officers and Privates of the Eighth Pennsylvania Regiment...Privates...Archilbald Guthery, killed August, 1779." (PA Arch Ser 5, Vol3 p.368). Dreadfully wounded by his savage foe, his captain (Dawson) dispatched a messenger to Col. Brodhead for medical aid. The latter replied:--

"Headquarters, Pittsburgh, Aug. 4, 1779. Dear Sir:-- . . .I am sorry for poor Guthrie and have sent Dr. Bennville to try if he can save his life, but I fear it is in vain. . . Your most Ob't Servant, Daniel Brodhead, Col. Commandant W.D." (PA Arch Ser 1, Vol 12, p.151.)

LRG Footnote 393, p.712. "Depreciation pay, Eighth Regiment Continental Line, Guthry, Arch. (pd. Rebecca, widow of)" (PA Arch Ser 5, Vol4, p162)  

1779: DEATH of ARCHIBALD GUTHERY
On or about the 5th of August 1779, Archibald Guthery died from the effects of wounds inflicted by an Indian during his service in the Revolutionary War. Major unit engagements in 1779 were against the Iroquois. In 1779, George Washington ordered the Sullivan Campaign led by Col. Daniel Brodhead and General John Sullivan against the Iroquois nations to "not merely overrun, but destroy," the British-Indian alliance, so it seems likely that Archibald was involved in this campaign. Though a physician was sent by the regiment's colonel, help came too late or his wounds were too severe. {See notes above} 

AFTER 1779: REMARRIAGE of REBECCA PHILLIPS GUTHERY to SOLOMON HUBBS
Rebecca remarried to a Solomon Hubbs sometime after 1799. The exact timing is unclear. Solomon is documented on census records as a neighbor of Rebecca's son Archibald. Due to the alphabetical listings of the earlier census records it is unknown if Solomon was always a neighbor, but he did live in Greene County as early as 1790. Both Rebecca & Solomon are buried on the Guthrie Homestead, in Whiteley, Greene, Pennsylvania. Solomon Hubbs is listed by LRG as "Hobbs", but census records with the exception of 1790 & 1800 use the spelling Hubbs.

1790 CENSUS of WASHINGTON COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
SOLOMON HOBBS HOUSEHOLD: 2M 16+, 2M <16, 3 females.
Greene County, PA was not formed until 1796 from Washington County, so Solomon might be living in the same location with a different county name. 

1800 CENSUS of GREENE, GREENE, PENNSYLVANIA, USA 
SOLOMON HOBBS HOUSEHOLD: 1M45+, 1M&1F 26-44, 1M 16-25, 1M 10-15.
Rebecca, born c1755 would be 45. It is possible that she is the female enumerated in the household.  

1810: CENSUS of WHITELEY, GREENE, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
SOLOMON HUBBS HOUSEHOLD: 1M & 1F 26-44
Interestingly, 10 years have rolled along, but the people haven't aged. By this time Rebecca should be 55 years of age and definitely not in this age category. Later census records suggest that Solomon was younger than Rebecca.

1820: CENSUS of WHITELEY, GREENE, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
SOLOMON HUBBS HOUSEHOLD: 1M 45+, 1F 26-44, 1 in agriculture.
Rebecca would be about 66 years of age and definitely would not fit in the 26-44 year category. By 1820, Solomon Hubbs is living next to the Guthrie Homestead. Archibald Guthery and Solomon Hubbs are the last two entries for Whiteley Township.

1830: CENSUS of WHITELEY, GREENE, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
SOLOMON HUBBS HOUSEHOLD: 1M 60-69, 1F 70-79
At last a census where the ages seem to match Solomon & Rebecca. Again, Solomon's household is listed next to that of Archibald Guthery's. 

1840: CENSUS of WHITELEY, GREENE, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
SOLOMON HUBBS HOUSEHOLD: 1M 70-79, 1F 80-89
These ages match the 1830 census with a 10-year progression. 

1850: CENSUS of WHITELEY, GREENE, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
Although Rebecca & Solomon reportedly lived until 1851, I find neither of them listed in the 1850 census. 

1851: DEATH of REBECCA PHILLIPS GUTHERY HOBBS 
Rebecca & Solomon both died in 1851.