Guthrie Genealogy

GENETIC GENEALOGY of GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 2A

GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 13

GUTHRIES of ANTRIM N.IRE / SCT / NY / NC / TN

The most common surname matches for GFG13 are: Gillespie/McNicol/Diamond/Malone. A McNicol participant is a Y-DNA match for the two Guthrie men of this group.

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LINEAGES ASSOCIATED with GFG13:

Descendants of Robert Guthrie 1773NC-1856TN (Martha/Jane Norwood)

Descendants of James Guthrie Sr c1762IRE-1839NY (Jane Smith)

  

GUTHRIE-NORWOOD
The 1850 census indicates that Robert Guthrie was born in North Carolina. He was living in Abbeville, South Carolina by the time of the 1800 census where he was listed as a Head of Household. An early Tennessee Tax List places the family in Giles County, Tennessee by 1812. Robert died there in 1856. 


Some online trees list Robert Guthrie as the son of Thomas Guthrie & Jane Duncan of Orkney, Scotland, GA, and SC, but there seems to be no evidence of such a relationship. The Y-DNA results suggest that Ireland rather than Scotland was a more likely location for the Guthrie exodus to America. 


The name of Robert’s wife is also a subject of conversation across the internet. The 1850 census lists her as Jane Guthrie. The will of Gen John Norwood of Abbeville mentions a daughter named Jean Guthrie, but does not list the name of his son-in-law. Descendants of Robert Guthrie indicate that a bible record lists Robert’s wife as Martha Jane Norwood. 


The John Guthrie of Abbeville, SC reportedly married to a Jean Norwood is listed as the son of Thomas Guthrie & Jean Duncan, a likely reason why Robert Guthrie is also listed in online trees as their son. However, there is evidence in the form of immigration documentation and a will naming Thomas & Jean (Duncan) Guthrie’s children, which does not mention a son named Robert. Several descendants of Thomas & Jean are participants in the Guthrie Family Finder Project.


GUTHRIE-SMITH
This is another lineage that is frequently misdocumented in online trees. My ancestors, James Guthrie & Jane Smith of IRE/NC (GFG2A), are frequently mistaken for this James Guthrie & Jane Smith of IRE/NY (GFG13).  


James Guthrie was born c1762 in Balymena, Antrim, Northern Ireland. His marriage to Jane Smith occurred in County Antrim estimated about 1783-1784. The couple and several children born in Antrim immigrated to NY between 1800-1805, settling in Galway, Saratoga, NY. They lived in Galway through the 1820s and relocated to York, Livingston, NY by the 1830 census. Both James Guthrie and Jane (Smith) Guthrie left wills in York, Livingston, NY. 

DEVELOPING THEORIES:

OTHER SURNAME MATCHES 

The matches for the two Guthrie participants of Group 13 have resulted in non-Guthrie surnames. The majority of these match up with the names Gillespie, McNicol, Diamond, and Malone, although there are several other matches of varying names.


The two Guthrie men and our matching McNichol participant share a common paternal ancestor. The two Guthries share a common Guthrie ancestor as they still share the same surname. The McNicol participant could be from a more recent or a more distant genetic event.

GROUP 13 GUTHRIE ORIGINS
Information posted on the line of James Guthrie indicates that he was born in Balymena, Antrim, Ireland. If correct, it is likely that James and Robert?s common ancestor might be found in County Antrim. 


Does anyone have data to support James Guthrie?s origins in County Antrim?