Guthrie Genealogy

GENETIC GENEALOGY of GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 2A

William Guthrie & Elizabeth Barnett

GFG2A - BRANCH B - CLUSTER 1

William Guthrie

Son of Robert Guthrie & Miss___Darlington

Born: c1726

Location: Fallowfield, Chester, Pennsylvania

Marriage: c1751 in Lugan, Cumberland, Pennsylvania

Occupation:

Died: 3 Sep 1778

Location: Waxhaws, Lancaster, South Carolina

Buried: Unknown, presumably in South Carolina

Elizabeth Barnett

Daughter of Thomas Barnett & __________

Born: c1736

Location: Franklin, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania

Sons: Robert, James, William Barnett, Adam

Daughters: Margaret, Ann, Mary

Died: 24 Oct 1804

Location: Waxhaws, Lancaster, South Carolina

Buried: Unknown, presumably in South Carolina

THE HIGHLIGHTS:

SOURCE: American Guthrie and Allied Families by Laurence R. Guthrie

"William Guthrie, a presumptive son of Robert Guthrie, of Chester County, PA was more or less closely associated with the Guthries, James and John, who lived along Back Creek in Hamilton Township, Cumberland (now Franklin) County, PA, during the Indian Wars. The first mention of him so far discovered is in a list of taxables of Lurgan Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1751-52. 

He was the William Guthrie, we are quite sure, who married a daughter of Thomas Barnett, who was a neighbor to James and John Guthrie on Back Creek. Of course there is the possibility that it was young William, the son of James, who married the Barnett girl. The indications are that it was an older man who married her. Thomas Barnett made his will. The latter was then an aged man and the probabilities are that his daughter had been married to Guthrie for a number of years when he made his will. The fact that some of the Barnetts were neighbors to William in the south strengthens the above representation. A tradition handed down by some of the descendants of this William is to the effect that there were three brothers -- on remained in the east, one settled in the north and one, (William), went south.

There is not other known record of this William in the Cumberland Valley. His name is not found in the list of volunteers under Joseph Armstrong in 1755 and subsequently. It is certain however that that list was incomplete and very probable that  he served in the Indian wars. Like the other settlers of the valley he no doubt removed his family to the east for safety during those harrowing times. Toward the close of this period there was a strong movement of settlers from the Cumberland Valley to the south along the route which has already been indicated. It was said in 1746--"908 families of our northern borders went to North Carolina." This migration included a large number from the vicinity of Rocky Spring Meeting House and Falling Spring at Chambersburg. Tradition says that William Guthrie, who settled in the Waxhaw settlement, South Carolina, had lived prior to that in Pennsylvania. With no further proof we proceed on the assumption that William Guthrie of the Waxhaw Settlement was identical with william Guthrie of Back Creek in the Cumberland Valley of Pennsylvania.

William Guthrie was a prominent planter and slave-owner of South Carolina, and one of the first settlers in the Waxhaw district. He was a man of learning and his children had the best educational advantages that the times afforded."

The children's names included in LRG's book come from an original Bible Record.

Margaret Guthrie, b. 30 Oct 1753. No further information.

Robert Guthrie  married Mary Taylor on 9 March 1780 in SC. "Induced to move to KY by Daniel Boone." He was born on 22 Oct 1756. Lived in Madison County, later in Williamson County, TN. Bought land near Franklin and lived there nearly 40 years. Died 13 April 1838. Mary died 5 Jan 1845. Both buried in Franklin. 6 sons and 2 daughters. Rev. War Pension Records @ Footnote. DNA Project Participant Larry Lee Guthrie Sr is a descendant.

Elizabeth Guthrie, b. 2 Dec 1761. No further information.

James Guthrie married Jane Carnes before 1785 in SC. He was born 21 Mar 1764. Emigrated to Mercer & Gerrard, KY. and died there before 9 June 1827. 4 sons and 2 daughters. DNA Project participant (Douglas Lee Dalton).

William Guthrie, b. 22 March 1767. No further information. No current DNA Project participant.

Adam Guthrie, b. 1 Oct 1769. No further information. No current DNA Project participant.

Ann Guthrie, b. 7 April 1773. No further information.

Mary Guthrie, b. 8 April 1776. No further information.

1771: Cumberland County Pennsylvania Wills, Liber B, Folio 104
"To my son-in-law Willm. Gothery and his wife, 10 pounds." From the will of Thomas Barnett dated Oct. 13, 1771. Probated Nov. 12, 1771.

1774: Occupation
SOURCE: The Waxhaws, by Louise Pettus, assisted by Nancy Crockett, 1993. US/CAN975.745H2p, FHL 
Preface: “There have been handicaps in the gathering of information. In 1865, Union soldiers destroyed all or Lancaster Countyʼs wills and estate papers and most of the court records. Only the land transactions were spared. There was no county newspaper before the 1850s. The state did not require the recording of births, deaths or marriages until this century. Old Waxhaw Churchʼs first century of records are lost. In the first half of the nineteenth century, cotton created large plantations forcing many farmers to move West. The Civil War destroyed plantation life and more of the population left to make their fortunes elsewhere. Families took their Bibles and papers with them. There are gaps that we cannot fill.” 

p.18 WILLIAM GUTHRIE, cordwainer in 1774, made rope for the farmer and the tradesman. In the days before bedsprings, his cordage was used on beds to support the feather mattresses--a necessary part of the "bed furniture". Dependant upon its intended use, the cordage might be of straw, hemp, flax, or cotton origins.  

1778: DEATH of WILLIAM GUTHRIE
William died on 3 September 1778 in Lancaster County, South Carolina. 

1787: Lancaster County, South Carolina Deeds, liber A216.
Oct. 2,1787 James Guthrie and Jane his wife of Lancaster County, S. C., to Richard Wright, 194 acres in the Waxhaw Settlement, Lancaster County, adjoining lands of Robert Guthrie, part of a tract granted May 4, 1771, to William Guthrie, who devised it in his will to his son James Guthrie." Witness Robert Guthrie.

This indenture made between James Guthrie in the County of Lancaster and State of South Carolina Planter of the one part and Richard Wright in the County and State aforesaid, Planter of the other part Witnesseth that the said James Guthrie for and in consideration of the sum of 80 pounds to him paid by said Ricahrd Wright the said James Guthrie hath granted, bargained and sold and confirmed unto the said Richard Wright and to his heirs and assigns forever 194 acres of land lying and being in the Waxhaw Settlement in the County aforesaid Beginning at a pine thence------thence along the dividing line between the said tract and Robert Guthrie's land to the begining pine containing one hudnred and ninety-four acres, it being a part of a tract of land at first granted to William Guthrie by the Honorable William Bull, Esq. bearing date 4th day of May AD 1771 which said piece or tract of land the above named William Guthrie by his last Will and Testament did give and devise to his beloved son James Guthrie and I, the said James Guthrie, am the true owner of the said 194 acres of land and the same to the said Richard Wright with all the houses, edifices, etc, as William Guthrie by his Deed Patent did or might enjoy the said Richard Wright paying the yearly reserved Quit rents or Taxes as the Law directs to have and to hold the said tract of land and all and singular the premises to the said Richard Wright, his heirs and assigns forever.

The said James Guthrie and Jane his wife have hereunto set their hands amd seals the 2nd day of October 1787.

Signed & Delivered in presence of Thomas Wells, Robert Walker, Robert Guthrie Signed: James Guthrie (seal) Jane Guthrie (seal).

Thomas Wells and Robert Guthrie personally appeared before me John Craig, Justice assigned to keep the Peace and being duly sworn and that they were both present and did see James Guthrie and Jane Guthrie, his wife, sign seal and deliver the within mentioned Deed unto Richard Wright, Jun., and that they did see Robt. Walker witness the same. Given under my hand this 14th day of April 1788.  

1789: Lancaster County, South Carolina Deeds, liber B70
Abstract:  "Feb. 10, 1789:William Guthrie, Planter, and Eliza Guthrie, spinster, of Lancaster County, S. C., to William Sprunt, for 89 pounds, 10 shillings, 5 pence, 229 acres devised to his wife Elizabeth and his son, William Guthrie."

SOURCE: Abstracts of Deeds B (Old) 1788-1797 Lancaster County, South Carolina, by Mrs. Ida McDow Rodman, Genealogist, Waxhaws Chapter DAR, US/CAN 975.745R2d v.2 pp.74-75 

Page 70 (10th Feby. 1789) Indenture betweem Elizabeth Guthrie and William Guthrie of Lancaster County, South Carolina Spinster and Planter of one part and William Sprunt of aforesaid County and State Planter witnesseth for sum of 89 pounds 10 shillings and 5 pence sterling hath sold to William Sprunt, his heirs, etc. forever a tract of land containing 229 acres situation on north side of Cane Creek in Waxhaw Settlement being a tract of land first granted to William Guthrie by his Excellency William Bull Esq. - dated July 26, 1774 which said tract of land the said William Guthrie by his last Will and Testament did give and Demise unto his well beloved wife Elizabeth Guthrie and his well beloved son William Guthrie and to their heirs and assigns forever, Now we the said Elizabeth and William Guthrie are true owners of said 229 acres and the same unto said William Sprunt with all houses, etc., July 25, 1788. Witnesses: John Craig, Robert Guthrie, John (his x mark) Hood. Signed: Elizabeth (her x mark) Guthrie (seal), William Guthrie (seal) 

Rec’d the day and year first within written of the within named William Sprunt the sum of 89 : 10 : 5 it being the whole consideration money within mentioned. I say Rec’d by us  (blank) 

Memorandum that on the 7th day of January 1789 I do hereby certify that I was personally present and did see Elizabeth Guthrie and William Guthrie sign seal and deliver the within written Deed unto William Sprunt for the use and purpose within mentioned and that Robert Guthrie and John Hood was present and did witness the same Given under my hand the day and year above written. 

John Craig J.P. 

1804: DEATH of ELIZABETH BARNETT GUTHRIE
Elizabeth died in Lancaster County, South Carolina on the 24th of October, 1804. Burial location unknown.